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Post by kait on Dec 26, 2011 11:39:14 GMT -5
There are so many different theories about the connections between the families in the Mortal Instruments and The Infernal Devices that we can't help but discuss them!
We'll tell you our favorites, then you tell us yours!
This is a personal theory of mine, but I'm sure many others have thought about it too!
CECILY HERONDALE IS AN ANCESTOR OF THE MODERN DAY LIGHTWOOD FAMILY. Like a great-great(-great?) grandmother.
How, you ask? I think she becomes a Shadowhunter after all, whips the morally-confused Gabriel Lightwood into shape in Clockwork Princess, and when all is said and done, marries him.
That would explain why Alec and Isabelle Lightwood have the ink black hair and piercing blue eyes that are credited to Will and Cecily Herondale in The Infernal Devices series!
..Or someone else along the family line had blue eyes and black hair. But let a girl dream!
What theories to you have about the two series and how the Victorian families in London became the modern families in New York City?
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Post by finnicklover on Dec 27, 2011 19:48:50 GMT -5
I actually really really like your theory!
I have heard heaps of theories about Cecily and most are saying that she and James are going to get married and have children but your theory is actually how it should be!.
I love it!
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Post by Sherlock Skeeter on Dec 28, 2011 19:08:22 GMT -5
Yesss!! that explains a lot.
But if Jace is Wills desendant ( which he might be) that means that the lightwoods and Jace are really related! YAY
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Post by kait on Dec 30, 2011 0:49:38 GMT -5
Yesss!! that explains a lot. But if Jace is Wills desendant ( which he might be) that means that the lightwoods and Jace are really related! YAY This is true. But then again, they'd be so distantly related by the time Jace and the Lightwood children are born that it wouldn't really count.  |
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Post by perfugium on Dec 30, 2011 6:01:22 GMT -5
First of all, I think that Tessa is immortal, but she's not exactly a downworlder. I believe what Nathan said, about her mother being a shadow hunter.
"The moment it struck her palm, the light dimmed to a shimmering flicker." Clockwork Angel pg. 37
"She wasn't sure, but she thought she could see a glint of light peeking out through her fingers." City of Bones pg. 313
I know it's not much to go on, but I had the impression that witchlight didn't work for anyone but shadowhunters. The stone also has the same reaction it did to Clary. If her mother was a shadowhunter that might also explain the lack of a mark. I also believe, even though many are doubtful, that Tessa bears the ability to have children.
What about the demon/shadowhunter can't have children bit? Whose to say it was a demon, they've lied before. Might have been an angel. I mean, an ancestor of Herondale encountered an angel once right?
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Post by finnicklover on Dec 30, 2011 8:28:49 GMT -5
My mind is blown on so many levels  |
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Post by Sherlock Skeeter on Dec 30, 2011 20:58:39 GMT -5
First of all, I think that Tessa is immortal, but she's not exactly a downworlder. I believe what Nathan said, about her mother being a shadow hunter. "The moment it struck her palm, the light dimmed to a shimmering flicker." Clockwork Angel pg. 37 "She wasn't sure, but she thought she could see a glint of light peeking out through her fingers." City of Bones pg. 313 I know it's not much to go on, but I had the impression that witchlight didn't work for anyone but shadowhunters. The stone also has the same reaction it did to Clary. If her mother was a shadowhunter that might also explain the lack of a mark. I also believe, even though many are doubtful, that Tessa bears the ability to have children. What about the demon/shadowhunter can't have children bit? Whose to say it was a demon, they've lied before. Might have been an angel. I mean, an ancestor of Herondale encountered an angel once right? I hope she does. And I agree it might have been an angel, or shes just lying about the whole demon/shadowhunter thing or maybe it depends on how much demon blood??? I don't know... |
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Post by kait on Dec 30, 2011 23:29:41 GMT -5
First of all, I think that Tessa is immortal, but she's not exactly a downworlder. I believe what Nathan said, about her mother being a shadow hunter. I know it's not much to go on, but I had the impression that witchlight didn't work for anyone but shadowhunters. The stone also has the same reaction it did to Clary. If her mother was a shadowhunter that might also explain the lack of a mark. I also believe, even though many are doubtful, that Tessa bears the ability to have children. What about the demon/shadowhunter can't have children bit? Whose to say it was a demon, they've lied before. Might have been an angel. I mean, an ancestor of Herondale encountered an angel once right? Agreed! I think Tessa is part Shadowhunter and part something else that isn't a demon, though I'm not sure how it would work. An angel does make a lot of sense if one could explain why the heck an angel tricked a Shadowhunter into jumping in bed with him. I really really hope that she can have children because I really want her to be ancestor of one of the Shadowhunter families *cough*HERONDALE!*cough* I saw a really wacky theory on tumblr that Tessa is immortal and in TMI she's actually Jocelyn, Clary's mom, just using her magic to look like a different person! But that is WAY TOO FAR-FETCHED for me! |
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Post by Corals on Dec 11, 2012 13:48:16 GMT -5
Tessa and Jem......Ancestors to the Morgenstern Line that ends with Sebastion.
Tessa's mother and Aunt's last name was Moore. Which to me lends credence to the idea that she was a shadowhunter that left the clave to marry a mundane. Her shadowhunter name would be Morgenstern. Between her angel /demon heritage and his corruption from the demon poison they are compatible. Their child would be born with Jem's current features. Sebastion and Valentine both have that silver hair.
Henry and Charlotte.... Ancestors to Clary. Charlotte has the same small stature and Henry the ginger hair.
Lightwoods. Could be from either Gideon and Sophie or Gabriel and Cecily. The former would explain the desire of the Lightwood women to be strong shadowhunters and bad at being domestic. Trying to make up for where Sophie started from.
The latter would explain Alec's likeness to Will. However I think Cecily is the key to the continuation of the Herondale line. There could be some later mixing of the families that would explain Alec's looks.
I think that Will doesn't get married and I like the idea of him becoming a silent brother.
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Post by Dinosaur on Feb 26, 2013 9:38:33 GMT -5
Yes, I heard about the theory going around that either Jem or Will is actually gonna end up being Brother Zachariah.
It's sort of backed up by the time when clary talks to him in city of lost souls
“ Clary: Were you ever in love? Before the Brotherhood? Was there anyone you would have died for?
Brother Zachariah: 'Two people'.."
furthermore he says
"I was once a shadowhunter like you. I lived like you do. and like you there were those I loved enough to put their welfare before anything else"
I hope it's none of them, but theres a cjance
gah, the infernal device is not going to have a happy ending
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Post by Clockwork Princess on Mar 7, 2013 18:45:31 GMT -5
I think that the Herondales look so much like the Lightwoods because (now, stick with me here, it could make sense) The thing Will did to Gabriels sister was NOT reading out her diary (I know we were all dissapointed when that was finally revealed) it was that he knocked her up, and didnt want Tessa to know, because he loved her, and didnt want her to see that part of his history. Anyway, Will covered up, and Gabriel thought he was trying to protect his sister when he said that, so Gabriel went along, so as not to embarrass his sister. Gabriels sister has a boy, who she sells to a wealthy family, and never tells anyone about. when the baby grows up, he is married away, by his adopted parents to (now, this is where I sort of get stuck, It could be any combination of people with a Lightwood parent) let's say, for now, so I can think about it more, Cecily and Gideons baby (I ship them, ps). ( lets call Will and Gabriels sisters baby Bob for now) Bob's adopted parents don't know that his father was a Herondale, as they only had dealings with the mother, who was a LIGHTWOOD. Bob and his wife would have the surname Lightwood, making the lightwoods connected to the Herondales. That's why Jace has such a strong relationship with Alec, and Bro Z, who is Will, knows they r related, so he sends Jace to live with his 'family' in New York. (I really want to write a fanfiction about that now. I'm having good Ideas today, I had another good one on my predictions forum on this site  yes, I am advertising XD ) |
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